Wednesday, July 14, 2010

Angry Gary Carter "Now you're getting your way"

I've been receiving e-mails about a particular video that was just posted on YouTube. A fan shot this video during All-Star Fan Fest. When he asked Hall of Famer Gary Carter to sign a picture for his kid, Carter said "No" and all parties get angry. Security had to get involved. Well you're just going to have to see the video. By the way, I was at Fan Fest yesterday. I'll upload pictures later today.

Look, Tony Gwynn didn't sign anything but a 8x10 picture that was made from State Farm. I'm not defending Carter, but if you already know he's not going to sign anything else, why create a scene? I got Gwynn's autograph knowing that I was ONLY going to get a 8x10 picture. He wasn't going to sign anything else.

Security involvement was funny. He got in the fans face just to show up on YouTube. That's all. Just watch it...

28 comments:

Eric "NiƱo" said...

The fan had a point about at least signing for the kids because kids always deserve the autograph.

He did ignite the situation by saying he was going to post it on YouTube. Its almost as if he had it planned.

Funny none-the-less.

Jeff said...

The guys with the camera was just being a dick...what was the point of that. Its people like that who make events less fun

Ben T said...

This was obviously made by some scumbag selling the autographs on Ebay. Look at how the photographs already had stickers of authenticity. These guys go around using kids as pawns. Awful

Fernando said...

The fan is dumb. He recorded this and knew what was going to happen. I was there Sunday and some players signed everything, others only a certain item. I knew this so I didn't waste my time to those that only signed a little paper. The security at the end didn't handle this situation well.

TrueDogerFan said...

Read the description on the youtube video b4 you judge

Paul Zummo said...

Read the description on the youtube video b4 you judge

Yeah, the guy's still a dick - and I'm not talking about Carter.

I mean, check out the guy's handle and check out his Youtube page. Obsessed much?

Roberto said...

@ TrueDodgerFan - I did read the description... All I'm saying is this... why waste your time if you don't want his autograph on their items? He already knew what he was getting. We can say Carter is a jerk for only wanting to sign a particular item, fine. But since you know that, go to another booth and get an autograph from someone else.

Eddie2323 said...

That fan was wrong. he just made the entire situation uncomfortable for everyone. he knew the rules. why make a scene?

Bear Down Consulting said...

The guy taking the video is a complete embarrassment to sports fans. Just because technology exists that allows us to upload video for the world to see doesn't mean that you threaten to use the video because you don't get your way. I can understand if he was wronged, but he clearly was not. Gary Carter may have been contractually limited to what he is able to do while sitting at that table. Be thankful the guy even cares about the game and the fans enough to show up.
www.bearconsults.com

mp023345 said...

Just another person trying to see how far they can go. No wonder stars don't like to go out in public. They have to deal with douche bags like this.

Michael said...

Yeah the videotaper was really being a dick throughout. He had his videocamera ready, his kids to use as "pawns" to make him seem "innocent", obviously he had his YouTube script ready to go, and on top of that he made an embarrassment of himself not only in front of security but also his family. It's guys like those that give sports fans a bad name sometimes.

TTMCentral said...

I believe what this guy did was not the smartest. Now I know that I may be ignorant and that they may be both at fault but I was there at the Fanfest on Saturday and stood in line for a good amount of time to get Gary Carter's autograph. I am only 16 years old and I am a huge Dodger Fan. Gary Carter would not sign my card and would only do it for a donation. I was with a friend and we took our time to go buy a card of him and he wouldnt sign anything but a paper. He states in the video that he would sign baseball cards but that isnt true. It is NOT american to not sign a child's item and I believe this man has his head up his a**, with his supposed HOF worthy career. Before this I was a fan of Gary Carter. I never understood why as a human being he would do something like that. By the way Robert I love your blog and have for a loooooooooooonnnnnnnngggg time :).

MarieR said...

I was there and Gary Carter is an idiot. My husband was in line for two hours when the guy came down the line to tell him Gary is signing 8X11 pieces of paper. The first guy in front of my husband took out $25 dollars for Carter to sign his baseball; Carter TOOK the money and signed the ball. The guy behind my husband offered Carter $10 to sign his baseball and Carter refused. So the guy had to come up with another $15 dollars in order for Carter to sign his baseball. This was absolutely ridiculous as ALL player were signing baseballs and anything else for free (except for Ricky Henderson, but then we all know he's an a**hole. Gary Carter has now joined Ricky Henderson in A**hole Ville. There were lots of witnesses to what my husband and I saw; hope word of this gets around.

MarieR said...

Gary Carter was an A**hole. The reason this guy took out his camera was probably because of what happened before he got to the front of the line. My husband was in line for two hours. The guy in front of him took out $25 and gave it to Carter to sign his baseball. Carter TOOK the money, put it in his pocket and proceeded to sign the baseball. The guy after my husband took out $10 and gave it to Carter for him to sign his baseball. Carter said "No." The guy then proceeded to take out another $15 and gave a total of $25 to Carter. Again, Carter TOOK the money, put it in his pocket and proceeded to sign the baseball. I didn't know what a prick Gary Carter really was. Just to set the record straight, Ricky Henderson signed the entrance ticket or a blank piece of paper; also, he was on his CELLPHONE while he was signing. These two idiots should be banned from attending a Fan Fest Convention that is supposed to give out FREE autographs to everyone. Tommy John was a perfect gentleman, so was Feller, Gaylor Perry, Earl Weaver, Maury Wills, Dick Williams, Jim Fergosi and Luis Aparicio. What Carter did was absolutely wrong. Carter and Ricky belong in A**hole Ville.

J said...

Carter always struck me as another phony religious athlete.
ONLY signing for the money and turning down a kid.
I'm sure Jesus is really proud of him.

chirpy said...

What ever happened to Garys afro? That thing was awesome.

A. DeVandry said...

I guarantee that guy was just using his kids to get some signed Gary Carter photos to sell. The photos are probably up on Ebay right now, and he's using the video as "proof" that they aren't fake autographs. What a douchebag.

Lemzilla said...

There aren't any Gary Carter fans that were born after 1979. The jerk was using his kids as a prop for a YouTube video. Well done.

TTMCentral said...

@ Lemzilla
"There aren't any Gary Carter fans that were born after 1979..."

I am only 16 years old and I do not want this to come to you as offensive but I disagree with your statement. Even I am a (former) fan and wanted to have Gary Carter's autograph but he didn't want to sign my card. The video stated that he was signing cards and the security guard I met said otherwise. I don't think its american not to sign a child's autograph. I KNOW for a fact when a child receives a autograph from a player (old or new, no matter if he/she knew them or not)it makes them happy and it makes their day. I did not have $25 dollars in my pocket and there is no way in hell I would pay that much anyway. When I was little, about 6 years of age, I received my first autograph from Paul Quantrill and David Ross. I had no clue who they were and I accepted the knowledge that they were playing on my favorite team, The Dodgers. It made my day to hold that autograph and say that I had the chance to meet them. You really can't say that he was using his kids as a pawn to sell those autograph and post them on Youtube because it is possible the thought of your kid to have that moment of happiness and having your kid smile for the rest of the day due to one autograph is priceless. I believe Gary Carter did the most UN-Christian thing. I am a huge fan a baseball and a huge fan of its history but Gary Carter is one of those moments I do not ever want to remember.

@MarieR
By the way, I am sorry that Rickey was being rude to the fans. It is sad to hear that he did that. I am glad now that I never went to his line just to be set up for dissapointment.

A. DeVandry said...

@TTMCentral
First, these kids had no idea who Gary Carter is (like you and Quantrill/Ross), so why would it matter to them if they got an autographed sheet of paper vs an autographed photo with an MLB foil stamp? It doesn't/shouldn't matter. They met the guy and got his autograph, end of story. It only matters to their dad who wants to sell the item (hence the foil sticker).

Second, what part of Carter's actions was un-Christian? Read Carter's website where he states that he will not sign anything that will be sold for profit. Carter saw the foil stickers and refused to sign. He has the right to do that without being labeled as un-Christian. I still have no idea what was "un-Christian" about his actions. Hopefully you or someone else can shed some light on how this relates to Carter's faith at all.

TTMCentral said...

@ A. DeVandry

Carter States:
"The Baseball Hall of Fame is something every player dreams about, but being a member of God's Hall of Fame is the greatest achievement of all. God offers each of us the gift of eternal life through Jesus Christ. When we accept God's gift of salvation, our name is written in The Book of Life, guaranteeing us a place in heaven forever."

"I made that decision during spring training in 1973, and prayed asking Jesus to come into my heart as Lord and Savior. It was then that I first realized that when Jesus died on the cross, he died for me and paid for my sins. Accepting his payment was all I needed to do. I couldn't earn my way into heaven. You can become a member of God's Hall of Fame too, by making the same decision today."

How do we really know that his intentions were to sell an autograph? (If they were then he is an A-hole and is making the autograph fans look bad). I don't believe that Gary Carter should care if his autographs are being sold for profit. He would be NOTHING without his fans. His fans were the one who paid his paycheck all those years he was playing.I don't believe a Christian or a man of God as he states would care about the money that they are making off of him or the money he is losing. They authenticate the item no matter what when you go up to get your item signed at the all star Fanfest so I don't believe it would have mattered having the MLB foil sticker. Everybody was selling his Merchandise to get signed. You wait 2-3 hours in line. Then as you get up to the table, he says he Won't sign it (instead a piece of paper for you) unless you give him $25.

A. DeVandry said...

You showed me that he claims to be a Christian. Good. But I asked you to show me where he was being un-Christian.

Carter already got paid to be at the event. According to athletepromotions.com, booking Carter for an event costs between $10,000 and $20,000. He didn't need to get paid $25 a pop to sign baseballs or whatever else was shoved in his face.

However, he has a charity, detailed on his website, and he has stated very clearly that he will sign for donations to his charity. See the links below for those detailed policies.

It's clear that he's not ripping people off. In fact, he is doing an honorable thing by raising money for charity. This is hardly "un-Christian". I think you and others have thrown that term around too loosely.

http://sportslocker.blogspot.com/2009/06/gary-carters-ebay-autograph-policy.html

http://www.liducks.com/userfiles/file/gary%20carter%20autograph.pdf

http://www.garycarter.org/about1.html

TTMCentral said...

Their were several players who have their own autograph policies for charity that were at the event such as Earl Weaver(Miami Children Hospital). As you say, "Carter already got paid to be at the event. According to athletepromotions.com, booking Carter for an event costs between $10,000 and $20,000. He didn't need to get paid $25 a pop to sign baseballs or whatever else was shoved in his face." If he was paid to be at the event for three days (10,000-25,000), Why did he only sign white paper when he could have donated the money that he was paid for the event to sign the items for the fans (Like Me) that waited in line for 2-3 hours. He could have signed items that the fans had like all the other players who have charities.

A. DeVandry said...

So you're backing off the un-Christian accusations?

If Carter got paid for the event, then that is his money to keep. More power to him. Quite honestly, Christian doctrine requires people to be stewards of their own money, and Carter is doing that.

It is WRONG of people to attack his character because he didn't donate his earnings to charity. The guy needs to earn a living.

I have no problem with him saying, "if you want me to sign your official crap for selling on eBay, then donate $25 to this charity."

I DO have a problem with people threatening him on video, using their kids as props, and forcing him to sign their eBay sale items by blackmailing him with youtube clips. ... and then claiming that his actions were un-Christian. Good grief.

TTMCentral said...

Look my card did not have an official MLB sticker. It was a common card that you could find in a standard package of cards. When an event says that the players will sign your item for free and you wait in line for 2-3 hours for Gary Carter to tell you I won't sign your card even though you are a kid and took the time to get a card of me and wait in a long line to be set up for disapointment.

jbull0ck said...

eI just submitted this as a comment on YouTube:

Please take the video down now. Putting children in the path of what appears to be a planned angerfest is premeditated child abuse. Anyone who finds someone else's behavior unacceptable yet blackmails them for an autograph needs psychological help on yet another level.

One can only hope.

James M. aka Cardcop said...

NONE of you who had one bad word to say about Gary Carter know the first thing about the TRUTH behind this man and his intentions and you should all be ashamed for talking of something you know NOTHING about.

I knew this man since 1989 when his outstanding charity work with the Leukemia Society of America inspired me to donate all my duplicate mint cards (all stars included) to children hospitalized with that awful disease. I donated over 30,000 cards and that was THE FIRST large card donation by a collector to ANY charity which was researched by the NY Daily News who did a story about my donation. That fact in itself shocked me and showed me how greedy/cheap collectors and dealers were. So I donated cards every year to the Leukemia Society until 1992. In 1991, I won a National Award from the Leukemia Society where I was credited with donating 250,000 cards by that point.

I donated 30,000+ cards and autographs every year after 1989 to the present.I donated every penny profit that I could have made from this hobby but instead I gave it to children who never got a chance to live their lives- UNLIKE THE HEALTHY CHILDREN YOU ARE ALL WINING ABOUT!

I made donations ALL BECAUSE GARY CARTER PROVED TO ME THAT HE WAS THE KINDEST, MOST THOUGHTFUL SPORTS PLAYER I EVER MET (TO THIS DAY!) and I met hundreds in every sport thanks to my donations!

As for Carter, besides making a hefty donation to charity for EVERY Home Run he hit, he vowed to never sign anything with a Mets logo unless the person donated $25 to the Leukemia Society - PERIOD (that was a fact from 1986-1999 that I personally know of). When you make a public statement like that, you cannot bend the rules even for a child.

If a player won't sign for kids and they DON'T sign for a donation- I have a problem with that! I got into a heated verbal fight with Mike Piazza at Shea Stadium in 1998 because he ALWAYS refused to sign for kids and he does not sign for a donation! But he would sign for pretty girls that he wanted to get with. That BS doesn't fly with me and I wanted to kick his butt, but he was too chicken to come out from the fenced in parking lot.

Gary Carter started his own charity at some point in the 2000's. He changed his rules slightly regarding the Mets items to all items I believe. We kept in touch until 2012 on & off until he passed away.

After 1989, I only asked for his autograph once & that was because he was inducted into the Hall Of Fame on my birthday (Jan. 7th) and I wanted my Hall Of Fame Yearbook signed mentioning that, which he gladly did for me- but he reminded even me that he cannot sign any other items unless I donate $25 to his charity.

When any player makes a public statement as to their autograph rules which they have every right to do, collectors have to follow those rules especially if the money ALL goes to children's charities. There's NO WAY Gary Carter EVER pocketed money for autographs he signed. Whomever made statements like that here should be ashamed of yourselves. You are just reflecting what YOU WOULD DO if you were in that position- which is just sad.I am ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE and would bet my life that he donated every penny he was given to sign an autograph to his charity.

James McCay

Marie Ross said...

Well...I was there and he would not sign anything unless you handed it over $25. My husband gave him $25 and Gary put it in his pocket. AT NO TIME DID GARY SAY THE MONEY WAS FOR CHARITY. We waited over two hours for his autograph and by that time we were done. My husband handed him the money. If he would have said it was for charity, I think it would have been different. Gary and the MLB All Star Fest handled this whole thing wrong.